What do you vegans think of my hunting hobby?

I'm serious. I know that you don't like how animals are raised on farms and abused, but do you have anything against me killing deer quickly with a bullet and thinning out their population so that they do not starve to death?

You can say that they aren't overpopulated all you like, but here in North Carolina, we have so many of them that they are actually starving and emaciated.

First of all, North Carolina white tailed deer population are not starving and emaciated. Hunting permits are strictly controlled by N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission so the species isn't over hunted. You aren't very "up to date" on what's going on in your own state.....that's obvious..

Nevertheless, if you're talking about Chronic Wasting Disease, it's a transmissible neurological disease of deer and elk..... It's been around for a long time and isn't caused by overpopulation. You should probably educate yourself more.

So, with that being said..... I have no issues if you choose to hunt with a rifle or bow IF you intend to eat the animal and don't hunt purely for sport.....and IF you aren't one of those arrogant dumbazzes who doesn't take the time in the off season to "hone" his/her skill so the animal can be "dropped" immediately with a single shot, so to be able to kill as humanely as possible.
Somehow however, I get the sense that you may be the kind who shoots 4 and 5 times at a deer because you really don't know how to hunt.
A hunter doesn't hunt purely for the sport, he/she respects the life it's taking and does so in the easiest manner possible.

***Dude, you need to go find out about your deer population there b/c you're very wrong about them being in such dire straights... It's pretty easy to find this information... Go find it...
LOL!!

Good Grief........

Edit: Yes, its pretty shocking how animals are treated on many farms, even for something like milk (which cows can naturally produce once they are pregnant). If you hunt animals (assuming legally, of course), at least you are willing to directly face the reality behind where your food comes from, as opposed to detaching yourself from the process but eating the results. A bullet shot would be pretty painful but probably much more short-lived and less painful than many of the other methods used to kill animals.
Maybe you might want to consider why you are hunting in the first place. Do you know that the deer you kill are starving? Clearly this is a debatable issue for you, seeing that you are interested in others' opinions on it. If you are hunting because you would starve without the food obtained doing so, and if you can actually respect the animal you kill and use it appropriately (as the Native Americans did), that is a step higher than the cruel farming practices and I think thats a good thing already. In that case, I have nothing major against your hunting.
On the other hand, if you go hunting without any need, but rather "just for fun" or because you want to make a profit off their body parts, or simply enjoy killing animals (i.e. sadistic), I do hope you take up a less, um, callous hobby (to put it mildly). Think about it this way, would you like to live with the knowledge of having earned money via killing some innocent animal and selling its parts (e.g. horns)? Would you like an animal to have died/suffered in vain just to satisfy some desire to hunt? If these answers are no, well, I accept your hunting if you respect and properly use what you hunt, rather than waste it and leave dead bodies to rot. I may very well get some flack for this, but I think I understand where you are coming from.

If you have to shoot a deer, use a camera.

I would never kill an innocent animal, but if they were starving than a quick absolutely painless death would be okay. If you were hunting because you were starving and your family is poor and you can't afford a lot of food that would be okay. What wouldn't be okay would be if it were for fun. God i hate people who hunt for fun. The only people who should eat meat are the Native American's because they know how to respect it.

K I L L E R

Overpopulation happens. It happens sooner or later to all species and then some of them die out and the population goes back down to a more normal level. It's all part of a normal cycle. Just because there's an overpopulation now doesn't mean it'll be like that in 5 years or so.

Why would you kill an innocent animal? I mean, if you were attacked by a vicious bear or something, that's a different matter. But to sneak up on some dear and kill it without giving it a chance is just sick and wrong. We don't live in the 1800's. You don't have to kill animals for food. So now you just do it for fun?!

If you wanna kill something that's over-populated, try cockroaches. I won't miss them.

Well...not that your question got a rise out of me...but, I live in VA, NC neighbor to the North, and, like NC. we have tons of deer, and tons of woods and noone's starving. If you saw an emaciated deer, it was probably sick (like it had a parasite or virus)...that happens in the wild.

Since I haven't heard of there being any droughts in NC, I think you're just trying to justify killing deer in your own mind...BECAUSE, hunting is LEGAL IN NC, so hunt all you want...I dont have to like it, but America's purportedly a FREE COUNTRY, so....what's with the dumb question???

yea there is an overpopulation problem, i guess if you like to eat deer, its fine

I have nothing against hunting and I don't care if I get flamed for stating this. For every deer that someone eats, that's one less cow for the factory farms. And deer do cause many problems when they overpopulate, for themselves and for us. Thank you for obtaining your meat from a more ethical (and natural) source.

And you're right about feeding the deer too. It disturbs the ecosystem. Humans are also a part of the ecosystem in North America, like it or not. Native Americans helped keep the populations of deer and other game animals in check before the European settlers came, which really wasn't that long ago in the great scheme of things.

PS: I don't know if you are aware of it, but there is a hunting section on answers. I think it might be under sports.

i am not against you personally, but i don't think that killing animals should be classified as a "sport".

well, i'm not going to applaud you for it, but i won't bust your balls about it either cause in the end we have two opinions that just aren't going to mesh well.

Try stamp collecting. If you're really concerned about overpopulation, shouldn't you be hunting people?

you can do whatever you want

but don't kill innocent animals.

you can feed them, then they won't starve

I love these v&v's that think if you go in the woods and try to feed "bambie" or "winnie the pooh" they will calmly come and eat out of thier hands, hellll maybe they would even have a conversation with them. such precious little harmless animals

Does anyone come to the hunting section of YA just to complain and annoy people? A lot of people do it here at Vegetarian/Vegan.

Just for laughs, I scanned 7 pages of the hunting section and the closest thing to a harassing question was one asking about using decoys, duck calls, etc; saying it was not sportsmanlike. I didn't see any questions like "why do you kill Bambi" or "did you know a gun is really a detachable penis."

I scanned 7 pages of VV section and found 13 questions that were clearly posted for the sake of harassment and to ask silly questions like "what do vegetarians feed their pets", "if an animal was genetically engineered to feel no pain would you eat it" "how do I deconvert a vegetarian and turn him into a normal person" "what would a vegan do if he had to live in the wild" etc. One person even gave himself the name of "Anti Vegan."

Personally, I don't bother with sections that don't interest me. Why can't you do the same? Some people don't agree with you--be a man and accept it.

I dont really care about it much at all. i could lie and say im to busy or this or that but in reality i just dont care.

kill animals, eat meat, take the karma and take the heart disease, it matters little to me.

so? big deal.

why should i think about what you do? i have more than enough things to think about during the day. if you need permission from vegans... well...

you don't have enough to do during the day.

It doesn't bother me when people hunt as long as they use the meat, and even the skin, etc, for their own purposes, especially if the species is overpopulated. I am not crazy about hunting for sport alone or just for the trophy.

I'm not a vegan, but predation is natural. As long as you kill what you eat, I don't know how anyone could come up with an intelligent opposition.

You do have a point that civilization has upset the balance of Nature and so things get out of whack and the populations of some animals boom and they do indeed end up starving if they overcrowd an area.

We had a problem in our local mountains with bark beetles. Environmentalists didn't want the trees to be cut down to try and control this pest and so it took over huge areas and now we have extreme fire hazards. People need to understand that we impact nature dramatically just by being here so we have to compensate. it's pretty much our duty, the way I see it.

Still, though, I think your hunting hobby sucks because animal protein is just not good for you. Killing animals by hunting just keeps the tradition of relying on flesh for food alive and it's just so unecessary. People are still going to do it, though. I understand that. It's certainly a heck of a lot better than factory farms. Those are disgusting and barbaric and just so incredibly cruel and degrading whereas hunting is just barbaric.

Well then by starving, wouldn't nature take care of their overpopulation without your "help?" Ya know, God set up plans to work perfect without our interfering, and when we do interfere, it tends to mess up how nature work perfectly!!

Wow, this never ceases to amaze me.

Rating system:
don't kill innocent animals, kill cockroaches instead cos they're gross = THUMBS UP
don't mind, it's your choice, it's legal = THUMBS DOWN
feed them = THUMBS UP!!!
KILLER = WOOHOO that's a THUMBS UP!
don't be silly, don't feed them you'll upset the natural balance = THUMBS DOWN!!!

Who's voting?
Is this the general consensus of YA V&V posters, posts like KILLER & Cockroaches get thumbs up?

Thank you for your question, FullMetal, let me say 1st-ly I'm not vegan nor a true blue vegetarian, however, I do NOT eat meat & fish due to bad experiences.

I have no problem with you hunting as long as you aren't poaching and is legal where you are from.

Legislations exist that are in place to keep over-hunting in check.

I didn't even bother reading your whole 'question.' why? because I've seen your idiotic answers in this section before so pretty much anything you say on here makes no sense.
I simply think that hunting is pathetic, heartless and immature. I think people who hunt have nothing else better to do and have no other way of showing how "manly" they are so they go after the innocent animals.

could you make me some jerky

good for you! at least kill em and sell their hides for a profit. oh no wait, that make you a poacher....